Comments on: Evaluation of Nuggets players as they go to Training Camp http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/ NuggetsHoops.com Fansite: Articles & Podcasts about your NBA Denver Nuggets Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:02:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Buried http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-172 Wavatar Buried Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-172 Nobody will ever criticize Bzdelik for burying Skita to make the playoffs. Kroenke and Kiki, realizing they had that chance, had to make sure it happened. It IS a business afterall, and a playoff team makes more money than a 35 win team that features Skita. Rodney didn't play because he's a trouble maker.<br /> <br /> Kiki said Nene will start. <br /> <br /> Kenyon has been an All-Star.<br /> <br /> Voshon is a great leader. He's quiet, but it always the first off the bench screaming and waving a towel. I agree that he shouldn't start, but 3 million dollars is peanuts in today's NBA.<br /> <br /> Boykins gets a B+ and Miller a B?<br /> <br /> Glover is a PG/SG...too small for SF<br /> <br /> Also, everybody talks about Ryan Bowen's lack of talent, but he averaged over 20 points a game in Turkey, and 14 points/9 rebounds at Iowa. He just focuses on energy play at the NBA level. <br /> <br /> Overall, decent article. The Carmelo piece was right on. Nobody will ever criticize Bzdelik for burying Skita to make the playoffs. Kroenke and Kiki, realizing they had that chance, had to make sure it happened. It IS a business afterall, and a playoff team makes more money than a 35 win team that features Skita. Rodney didn’t play because he’s a trouble maker.

Kiki said Nene will start.

Kenyon has been an All-Star.

Voshon is a great leader. He’s quiet, but it always the first off the bench screaming and waving a towel. I agree that he shouldn’t start, but 3 million dollars is peanuts in today’s NBA.

Boykins gets a B+ and Miller a B?

Glover is a PG/SG…too small for SF

Also, everybody talks about Ryan Bowen’s lack of talent, but he averaged over 20 points a game in Turkey, and 14 points/9 rebounds at Iowa. He just focuses on energy play at the NBA level.

Overall, decent article. The Carmelo piece was right on.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Jonathan Maness http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-173 Wavatar Jonathan Maness Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-173 Kiki did want Bzdelik to develop his younger stars instead of forgetting about them to make the playoffs, that is why Buzdelik's job is in jeopardy. <br /> Everything I have heard was Camby was starting in front of Nene, I havent heard that Kiki said Nene would start.<br /> Martin was an All-Star in the East. He will have a tougher time making the All-Star team in the West with the great Power Forwards (Nowitzki, Duncan, Garnett, Brand and Webber), even though I wish he would. He might have a better chance than Webber if Webber isnt healthy. <br /> Vo does help his teammates when he is on the floor, but when he is on the bench he is the last one up cheering and isnt anywhere near the huddle, maybe its because of his quiet persona. He isnt a great leader, he is to quiet and the only way he leads is by example. The problem is the only thing he works hard on is shooting.<br /> Boykins and Miller should have the same grade, my bad.<br /> Glover is listed 6-5 228 and is listed as SG/SF on NBA.com. He cant play PG, he doesnt have the ball-handling skills. Kiki did want Bzdelik to develop his younger stars instead of forgetting about them to make the playoffs, that is why Buzdelik’s job is in jeopardy.
Everything I have heard was Camby was starting in front of Nene, I havent heard that Kiki said Nene would start.
Martin was an All-Star in the East. He will have a tougher time making the All-Star team in the West with the great Power Forwards (Nowitzki, Duncan, Garnett, Brand and Webber), even though I wish he would. He might have a better chance than Webber if Webber isnt healthy.
Vo does help his teammates when he is on the floor, but when he is on the bench he is the last one up cheering and isnt anywhere near the huddle, maybe its because of his quiet persona. He isnt a great leader, he is to quiet and the only way he leads is by example. The problem is the only thing he works hard on is shooting.
Boykins and Miller should have the same grade, my bad.
Glover is listed 6-5 228 and is listed as SG/SF on NBA.com. He cant play PG, he doesnt have the ball-handling skills.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Knugsfan http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-174 Wavatar Knugsfan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-174 The players that they currently have are ok. I just want to know how Kiki is going to fill in the blanks. For one, Dennis Rodman is not part of the answer. The players that they currently have are ok. I just want to know how Kiki is going to fill in the blanks. For one, Dennis Rodman is not part of the answer.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Buried http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-175 Wavatar Buried Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-175 You don't know Dennis Rodman. I hope we sign him. He want's to cap off a hall of fame career on a good note.<br /> <br /> Buckner<br /> Rodman<br /> White<br /> Melvin Sanders<br /> <br /> That would be a solid 4 to bring into camp. You don’t know Dennis Rodman. I hope we sign him. He want’s to cap off a hall of fame career on a good note.

Buckner
Rodman
White
Melvin Sanders

That would be a solid 4 to bring into camp.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Knugsfan http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-176 Wavatar Knugsfan Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-176 Hey Buddy.<br /> <br /> Where are the shooters? the Nuggets are lacking outside shooting. someone other than Vo Lenard.<br /> <br /> Who are the shooters off the bench? Please dont mention Skita. Hey Buddy.

Where are the shooters? the Nuggets are lacking outside shooting. someone other than Vo Lenard.

Who are the shooters off the bench? Please dont mention Skita.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Buried http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-177 Wavatar Buried Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-177 Haha, I hope Skita never sees the court. Rodney White was the Nuggets best three point shooter last year. Greg Buckner is a very good three point shooter. Melvin Sanders was a deadeye 3-point shooter at Oklahoma State.<br /> <br /> Surely you knew that.<br /> <br /> Anyway, Bryon Russell is the only FA that specializes in three point shooting, but he's a terrible defender. The three above do it all and therefore would be better choices. Haha, I hope Skita never sees the court. Rodney White was the Nuggets best three point shooter last year. Greg Buckner is a very good three point shooter. Melvin Sanders was a deadeye 3-point shooter at Oklahoma State.

Surely you knew that.

Anyway, Bryon Russell is the only FA that specializes in three point shooting, but he’s a terrible defender. The three above do it all and therefore would be better choices.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Jonathan Maness http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-178 Wavatar Jonathan Maness Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-178 I hope Skita sees the floor, I think he has potential. He just needs confidence. Greg Buckner is a career .273% 3-point shooter, that's not very good. Bryon Russell is an excellent defender, that was his specialty in the league. I hope Skita sees the floor, I think he has potential. He just needs confidence. Greg Buckner is a career .273% 3-point shooter, that’s not very good. Bryon Russell is an excellent defender, that was his specialty in the league.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Buried http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-179 Wavatar Buried Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-179 Buckner is also six years younger.<br /> <br /> Skita may have potential, but he's not worth risking playing time when we have legitimate playoff hopes.<br /> <br /> Kiki messed up at his first draft, when Cleveland threatened to take Skita (Cleveland had #6 and wanted Wagner all along), Kiki choked and went after him, because his second choice was Wagner. He wanted Skita at 9.<br /> <br /> In some ways, it's a good thing, because we ended up with Nene. Who knows if Wagner would be going through the same issues/injuries if he was in Denver, but it worked out okay.<br /> <br /> Still...<br /> <br /> Paxson 1<br /> Kiki 0 Buckner is also six years younger.

Skita may have potential, but he’s not worth risking playing time when we have legitimate playoff hopes.

Kiki messed up at his first draft, when Cleveland threatened to take Skita (Cleveland had #6 and wanted Wagner all along), Kiki choked and went after him, because his second choice was Wagner. He wanted Skita at 9.

In some ways, it’s a good thing, because we ended up with Nene. Who knows if Wagner would be going through the same issues/injuries if he was in Denver, but it worked out okay.

Still…

Paxson 1
Kiki 0

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Buried http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-180 Wavatar Buried Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-180 And don't lie about Buckner. He's a career .297 3 point-shooter. .273 was last year, the worst of his career, and it hurt his overall numbers. And don’t lie about Buckner. He’s a career .297 3 point-shooter. .273 was last year, the worst of his career, and it hurt his overall numbers.

]]> <img class='wavatar' src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpg&r=PG&s=80&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuggetshoops.com%2Farticles%2Fwp-content%2Fcache%2Fwavatars%2Fd41d8cd98f00b204e.png' width='80' height='80' alt='Wavatar' />By: Jonathan Maness http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/2004/09/27/evaluation-of-nuggets-players-as-they-go-to-training-camp/#comment-181 Wavatar Jonathan Maness Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.nuggetshoops.com/articles/?p=112#comment-181 Sorry I was wrong, but his career high was .385- which was when he attempted 26 3-pointers and made 10. Last two years he attempted 99 three-pointers (148 career) and made 26 (44 career). Of course that's going to affect his averages because he attempted more three-pointers than before. He's not a three-point shooter, he's a defensive stopper Sorry I was wrong, but his career high was .385- which was when he attempted 26 3-pointers and made 10. Last two years he attempted 99 three-pointers (148 career) and made 26 (44 career). Of course that’s going to affect his averages because he attempted more three-pointers than before. He’s not a three-point shooter, he’s a defensive stopper

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